Was I completely wrong?

"Scary__goongala!" (corymagee) 01/16/2015 at 18:38 • Filed to: None

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I thought there was no way the new Furd GT was coming with any engine besides the flat plane crank V8. Additionally I was surprised it will only be available with a dual clutch fancy pants transmission. It is still a Ford product afterall. I expected a manual or dual clutch set up option. I understand the reasoning for Ford's decision making but still...

CAcoalminer > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:43

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I'm disappointed with the new GT in general.

Blondude > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:44

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For once "because racecar" is the actual answer.

Scary__goongala! > CAcoalminer 01/16/2015 at 18:44

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I think it looks amazing and what not, but its not what I was really hoping for.

Scary__goongala! > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 18:46

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I suppose. I just don't think the configuration they decided upon fits the spirit of the car.

SVTyler > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:47

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What confuses me is that (now that we know the GT gets the TTV6) unless Ford's got another black project in the works, the 5.2 is being built exclusively for the GT350 and GT350R. It seems like a huge waste of resources for a company like Ford to build such an engine and only use it in what is essentially one limited-production model, especially considering how much engine-sharing the rest of the lineup uses.

ttyymmnn > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:50

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Dat Yak doe. Neat picture.

Some people are pining about the apparent death of the V8. I really don't know all that much about that sort of thing, but it seems to me that modern technology is getting so much more out of smaller engines (see F1) that monster engines may well be a thing of the past.

Blondude > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:53

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The GT40's sole reason for existing was to kick ass at Le Mans. If Ford thinks a twin-turbo V6 and a dual clutch gearbox will help them do that again, I have no problems with it.

Scary__goongala! > SVTyler 01/16/2015 at 18:53

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Exactly. Why did they give it an engine that was originally built with the notion of economy first, performance second. Their new super car has the same engine configuration as several of their family hauling vehicles.

45bullets > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 18:55

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russian aircraft in background of 'murican picture? no way!

Scary__goongala! > ttyymmnn 01/16/2015 at 18:59

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I think they are getting more out of small engines because they have to. The only thing the V8s can't keep up on is efficiency. If they were not restricted by regulations small engines wouldn't have much of a chance. Yes hybrid supercars exist, but the GT isn't a hybrid supercar. Someone has the wrong idea if the plan is to market a supercar based off its fuel economy.

ttyymmnn > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 19:02

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Yes. A Jalopnik commenter got taken to the woodshed for asking about the MPGs on the new GT. But, with modern tech, can't you have both power and efficiency? I'm not making a Greenpeace pitch here. I bemoan the loss of the V-12s in F1. Unfortunately, I think that's just where we are now.

Scary__goongala! > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 19:03

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I don't think there choice was bad per say. If they can womp on Ferraris, Corvettes, Astons, etc with a TTV6 and dual clutch then by all means do it. But it may not have been what potential buyers were expecting.

SVTyler > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 19:03

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Same engine configuration sure, but it's more similar to the DP's TTV6 than the Ecoboost in the Flex or Explorer (or so Ford claims). That being said I agree with you completely, regardless of its race pedigree a V6 is much less special than a V8 and I'm kind of sad to see the GT move away from its roots. If everything that Ford's saying is true it'll hang with the supercar elite (and hell, might even beat them) but I don't think it'll be as special as its predecessors.

CAcoalminer > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 19:06

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I'm not very partial to the looks of it but that's not my main issue as styling is always subjective. I just wish they didn't name it the "GT."

Scary__goongala! > ttyymmnn 01/16/2015 at 19:06

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I saw those comments about MPGs haha. It is the world we live in but we are talking about high performance low volume vehicles. Save the environmental concerns for the millions of normal cars on the roads.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ttyymmnn 01/16/2015 at 19:14

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My Uncle used to have fly-in's at his private grass strip, and a couple of Yak's would show up occasionally. They'd put on a little airshow. Sadly, I don't know what happened to one of them because IIRC it was involved in an odd fatal crash(not the pilot of the Yak, the Yak clipped another plane at another airport and it crashed onto the college campus the airport was connected to).

MysticStick > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 19:33

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I too really thought the flat-plane 5.2 was meant for the GT. (I bet it will be an engine swap option in Forza 6.)

Also, I don't understand why they don't want to compete with the Corvette. If they could put the 5.2 in a mid-engine GT and keep the cost closer to $75k than $375k it could be a contender.

Manuél Ferrari > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 19:34

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But a larger TT V8 that stayed under the size limit would be better for the racecar.

Because racecar isn't the real answer. Because marketing is.

The 458's replacement will have a TT 3.85L V8. That mill will have more power than the GT's V6.

Scary__goongala! > MysticStick 01/16/2015 at 19:42

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Someone is going to put the 5.2 into it once they are on the market. I look forward to that.

Blondude > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2015 at 19:45

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But it's a hell of a lot cheaper to use a race-proven TT V6 that already conforms to the series' rules then it is to develop an entirely new TT V8 that's never been tested before.

Manuél Ferrari > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 19:48

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Yes but who cares about development cost? Apparently they have a lot of money as they made the flat plane 5.2 and didn't use it in the GT. And the new GT is going to be WAY more expensive so it deserves the best engine it can possibly get. And if the goal is to win races then you can't use a compromised engine because of cost.

It's not like the carbon fiber chassis was cheap to develop. If you're going to do that then why not go all the way?

T5Killer > SVTyler 01/16/2015 at 19:51

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Its nothing new Ford put quite a bit of money and time on the 662HP"Trinity" 5.8L and only put in in the '13/'14 GT500 or going older the "Terminator" 4.6 DOHC S/C and only put it in the '03 /'04 Cobra .

SVTyler > T5Killer 01/16/2015 at 20:07

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I was under the impression the new Voodoo is unrelated to the Coyote, which in turn is based off the 4.6 Mod motor, as are the Trinity and Terminator engines. Check that, the Voodoo is Coyote-based (and thus Modular-based) but only shares the alternator and starter motor along with a few valvetrain components. So yeah, I guess it's not that strange, just seems odd Ford would build such an amazing engine (arguably more advanced and impressive than the Trinity or Terminator) and only use it in one car, especially when they've got a new supercar in the works. Maybe that's just me, though.

Blondude > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2015 at 20:09

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That would make sense if they planned on entering the GT into a series that they didn't already have an engine for. No matter how much money you throw at development of an entirely new engine you'll still be at a disadvantage over other teams that have had multiple seasons to improve their engines. If you have an engine already in use in the series that has been raced before and has had all of the kinks worked out of it it would be stupid not to take advantage of it.

Manuél Ferrari > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 20:14

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I see. I didn't know the details on the exact series they are going for. I just knew they want to go back to Le Mans

I hope it's successful. I just wish it was a V8 because the car is probably going to be priced similar to the McLarens and Ferraris, which will both both have slightly larger displacement TT V8s once Ferrari is done copying McLaren's engine configuration

NJAnon > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 21:03

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@Scary

Stuff changes. At least they still want to make the GT(40). We are moving to environmental alternatives and better efficiency. And in the face of all the hydrogen/lithium, EPA, government stuff, internet forums, they still built their long standing world class car. Potential buyers expectations? I'll tell you; fast & exclusive. Those buyers probably own one of the previous versions already. So this is rounding out the collection regardless of how many holes are in the block.

Scary__goongala! > NJAnon 01/16/2015 at 21:21

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I don't mean to complain about the car. I still love the thing. I had an image in my mind of how I thought it should be/ how I thought they would make it. I was wrong. Yes I wish it had a manual and the flat plane 5.2, but I see why they made the decisions they did.

NJAnon > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 21:30

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No worries. Because who knows what they will do for the next one. Maybe they will have the setup in a new V8 engine they make in 5 or 6 years. I'm just glad they were smart to use 2 turbos. I do like turbo; when it isn't lagging.

Scary__goongala! > NJAnon 01/16/2015 at 22:04

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There is definitely a shop somewhere that is going to put the V8 in there as soon as the cars enter the market.

NJAnon > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 22:14

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There you go. Everyone will be happy. I will be happy seeing another US car remind the rest of the motorsports world we still can make stuff on our own. And Scary will get the V8 and destroy tracks and dragstrips!

Scary__goongala! > NJAnon 01/16/2015 at 22:25

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AWEEEEEEEE YEAHHHHHH

Axial > Blondude 01/16/2015 at 22:39

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Because marketing is actually the answer. Ford, unlike General Motors, apparently knows that if a halo car is to do its job then it needs to share branding with the lower end things. That a TT V6 happens to also align with the racing rules is just a happy turn of events. I think they would have gone EcoBoost regardless of whether or not they planned to take it to LeMans simply because they want to push the EcoBoost range of engines across the board.

GUYMANDUDE > Scary__goongala! 01/16/2015 at 22:47

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